http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ Support Forum - KBS Coatings » Forum: KBS RustSeal - Recent Posts en Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:35:12 +0000 http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2018#post-2804 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:55:36 +0000 KBS Coatings 2804@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>"I am painting a 4x4 chassis and was thinking of using different rustseal colours to track where I have and haven't painted. Is this advisable?"</p> <p>It is your choice. If the top coat chips away at some point, you are left with another color under it.</p> <p>"Is there any possibility of the underlying colour bleeding through?"</p> <p>Maybe with Off-White over Black, but I do not think that would be an issue at all.</p> <p>"I have also been told by a KBS rep to rather use the same colour as stone chips might reveal the underlying colour. Stone chips!? Do I need to be concerned about the paint chipping then?"</p> <p>Our paint is almost indestructible, but not completely indestructible. If it does chip, you will have another color under it. </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2018#post-2803 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:53:36 +0000 KBS Coatings 2803@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Here is information on our colors of RustSeal and their differences: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/RustSeal--Which-Color-Should-I-Use_ep_46-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/RustSeal--Which-Color-Should-I-Use_ep_46-1.html</a></p> <p>The Resin is the Same for all RustSeal, so they are all very durable. Some are more abrasion resistant. </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2018#post-2800 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:26:20 +0000 FireDragon 2800@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>I am painting a 4x4 chassis and was thinking of using different rustseal colours to track where I have and haven't painted. Is this advisable? </p> <p>Is there any possibility of the underlying colour bleeding through? </p> <p>I have also been told by a KBS rep to rather use the same colour as stone chips might reveal the underlying colour. Stone chips!? Do I need to be concerned about the paint chipping then? </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2018#post-2799 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:18:01 +0000 FireDragon 2799@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Is there a performance difference between the different rustseal colours? </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2013#post-2790 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:05:22 +0000 KBS Coatings 2790@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>All RustSeal is made with the same resin, so it is all extremely durable and tough. If you are looking for better abrasion resistance, you could go with the Galvanized Steel, the Oxide Red, the Guardian Green of the Silver colors. But like I said, all of the colors are very durable and very tough.</p> <p>You can find complete instructions for RustSeal here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/RustSeal-Information-and-Instructions_ep_38-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/RustSeal-Information-and-Instructions_ep_38-1.html</a></p> <p>You can also find the Fix-It Guide which will help you quickly identify the causes of and the recommended solutions for the most common issues that could occur with RustSeal here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/fix-it-guide-rustseal.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/fix-it-guide-rustseal.html</a></p> <p>You can also find Instructional Videos here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Videos_ep_90-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Videos_ep_90-1.html</a></p> <p>You can also find a Flow Chart for using the KBS 3 Step System here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Flow-Chart--RustSeal-on-Steel_ep_87-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Flow-Chart--RustSeal-on-Steel_ep_87-1.html</a> </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2013#post-2788 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:30:03 +0000 ridetheworld 2788@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>I read the section on Rustseal color choice on the website but I thought I would post the question to be sure I dont misunderstand.</p> <p> Is there a real durablity difference between the different colors? And if so, could you please elaborate?</p> <p> My application will be on an indoor high traffic motorcycle hydraulic lift, so it would have the usual tools, parts, and mild chemicals exposure on it. I'm partial to the gloss black but would gladly sacrifice color, for durablity. The lift is 1/4" steel diamond plate that measures 7'x2', and I'd like to coat the top with 2-3 coats,( is 2 coats enough?) and the bottom with one coat. Will a pint will cover 56 sq ft?</p> <p> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2008#post-2776 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:37:33 +0000 KBS Coatings 2776@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Your welcome. Please let us know if we can help you in any other way. </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2008#post-2775 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:38:52 +0000 bambookoo 2775@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>ohh damn<br /> i need to wire wheel most of the car down now to find out what areas are rusted<br /> the whole inside of the car has been coated aswell<br /> i waited till the rust started to go a bit white in colour<br /> so i thought the rust seal would work over it<br /> oh well </p> <p>thanks for the help though </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2008#post-2771 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:48:22 +0000 KBS Coatings 2771@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>You will want to wire wheel it all down to the bare metal and then use the KBS 3 Step System of AquaKlean, RustBlast and RustSeal.</p> <p>You can find complete instructions for RustSeal here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/RustSeal-Information-and-Instructions_ep_38-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/RustSeal-Information-and-Instructions_ep_38-1.html</a></p> <p>You can also find the Fix-It Guide which will help you quickly identify the causes of and the recommended solutions for the most common issues that could occur with RustSeal here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/fix-it-guide-rustseal.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/fix-it-guide-rustseal.html</a></p> <p>You can also find Instructional Videos here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Videos_ep_90-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Videos_ep_90-1.html</a></p> <p>You can also find a Flow Chart for using the KBS 3 Step System here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Flow-Chart--RustSeal-on-Steel_ep_87-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Flow-Chart--RustSeal-on-Steel_ep_87-1.html</a> </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2008#post-2770 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:27:43 +0000 bambookoo 2770@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>when i was doing that section i was only using a wire brush on a drill<br /> i aplied the rust seal with a brush </p> <p>now i am using i think it is nylon brushes on the dril<br /> so it is removing the rust more this time </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2008#post-2769 Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:11:55 +0000 KBS Coatings 2769@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>How were you removing the paint? How did you apply the RustSeal? </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/2008#post-2767 Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:22:26 +0000 bambookoo 2767@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>hi<br /> i was removing some paint today and removed some of the rustseal on another panel<br /> i found that the panel under the paint was all rusted again<br /> should i remove the rust seal and start again<br /> or should i not be worried?<br /> i know that rust seal will treat some of the rust </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1998#post-2750 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:14:49 +0000 KBS Jim 2750@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Mike,</p> <p>Yep, sounds like it was applied too heavy. Just like you said, just lightly sand down the bubbles, wipe/blow off the dust and apply another thin covering coat. </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1998#post-2749 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:11:05 +0000 denzil73 2749@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Hiya,</p> <p>I have got air bubbles in quite a few areas of my painted floorpan. I beleive I was applying it too thickly. I presume I need to sand these areas down and re-paint?<br /> If they do need repainting then do I have to go back to metal or just until the surface is smooth and the air bubbles have been exposed?</p> <p>Thanks,<br /> Mike </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1989#post-2735 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:58:09 +0000 KBS Coatings 2735@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>That should work perfect for you.</p> <p>Please let us know if you have any other questions. </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1989#post-2733 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:04:43 +0000 marsmars 2733@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Well not enough thinning I would say. Now that I have the Fusion SEP I am going to spray it and perhaps follow up with a filler where needed. I already gave the rust seal a light sanding. </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1995#post-2727 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:27:46 +0000 KBS Coatings 2727@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Just grind off the RustSeal, make your connections. The beauty of the RustSeal is it will not allow the rust to creep beyond the area.</p> <p>You can also apply some dielectric grease to the area.</p> <p>You can find complete instructions for RustSeal here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/RustSeal-Information-and-Instructions_ep_38-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/RustSeal-Information-and-Instructions_ep_38-1.html</a></p> <p>You can also find the Fix-It Guide which will help you quickly identify the causes of and the recommended solutions for the most common issues that could occur with RustSeal here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/fix-it-guide-rustseal.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/fix-it-guide-rustseal.html</a></p> <p>You can also find Instructional Videos here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Videos_ep_90-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Videos_ep_90-1.html</a></p> <p>You can also find a Flow Chart for using the KBS 3 Step System here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Flow-Chart--RustSeal-on-Steel_ep_87-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Flow-Chart--RustSeal-on-Steel_ep_87-1.html</a> </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1995#post-2726 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:15:10 +0000 bambookoo 2726@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Hi<br /> i am in the process of coating a whole car with your products such as rust seal and top coat<br /> i would just like to know about the grounding points on the vehicle<br /> i can sand the areas down but i would think that those areas will rust<br /> could you please advise me on how to tackle this<br /> thanks </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1989#post-2720 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:50:21 +0000 KBS Jim 2720@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Fusion is not a fill primer, but it will fill some. Sounds like you may have just sprayed a little heavier to create those craters. Did you thin some before spraying? </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1989#post-2714 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:49:00 +0000 marsmars 2714@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Yep. I actually had to start using 320 grit, because like you said the 400 was taking too long. </p> <p>I noticed as I am sanding the rust seal smooth, there are "freckles" here and there. The freckles are small shallow dimples in the paint, perhaps from my inexperience in spraying. You can see them because they are concave and they remain black while the sanded areas turn grey.<br /> Does the fusion self etch primer, my next coat to lay down, act like a filler as well to hide these small imperfections or should I spray another coat of rustseal first?</p> <p>Thanks </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1989#post-2710 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:24:17 +0000 KBS Jim 2710@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>I'd give it a couple of days at least before sanding. 400 grit should be good but it may take alot of sanding. If while sanding, you penetrate down to the bare steel, then I would apply another coat of RustSeal. If not, just apply your topcoat.</p> <p>Hope that helps. </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1989#post-2709 Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:00:36 +0000 marsmars 2709@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Stayed up till 3am (waited for kids to be in bed) to spray for my first time ever. I sprayed a cab with 2 coats of rust seal and noticed some runs and dust in the finish this morning. I know rust seal is not a finish coat, but I want to eliminate the flaws before I spray a top. </p> <p>1.How long should I wait before I sand out the imperfections?<br /> 2.Would 400 grit work well enough?<br /> 3.After sanding the rustseal smooth, do I have to reapply another coat of rust seal or can I just continue with the top coat. </p> <p>Thanks </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1988#post-2708 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:38:46 +0000 beetle 2708@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>I happened to be in an auto paint supplier yesterday and was talking to the proprietor and another guy who has restored a few bikes, and they convinced me that this approach would be better than powder coating for the same reason you mentioned - you can't repair it. </p> <p>Yes, the frame will be sand blasted. That was always my plan. I've ordered what I need from KBS and I'm looking forward to the job! </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1988#post-2707 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:58:40 +0000 retro1 2707@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>I know of several people that have used the Chassis Coater Kit and a top coat of Blacktop on motorcycle frames and trailing arms. It would still be a good idea however to have the frame sand, or media blasted to remove all traces of factory paint or powder coat RustSeal will do a much better job if bonded to bare metal. Also You may still want to cover threaded holes with small rubber corks from the hardware store (about $.25 a pc) RustSeal and BlackTop is tough stuff, you may find yourself retapping threaded holes.</p> <p>The best thing about painting your frame with Rustseal\BlackTop, if it does pick up a few chips over time you can repair it. Good Luck repairing Powder Coating. </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1988#post-2706 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:20:46 +0000 beetle 2706@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>I'm restoring a motorcycle that I think had a factory powder coated frame. I had planned to get the frame and several brackets sandblasted and powder coated, but now I'm wondering if the KBS Chassis Coater kit plus a Topcoat might produce similar results. It would save me some money and reduce the amount of work required in masking every threaded hole, plus I get that DIY satisfaction.<br /> What do you think? PS, I will be using the KBS Motorcycle Tank Sealer kit on the tank as well... </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1986#post-2702 Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:16:01 +0000 KBS Coatings 2702@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>"I want to confirm that if I spray on my topcoat within 6-12 hours (according do your diagram here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Flow-Chart--RustSeal-on-Steel_ep_87-1.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Flow-Chart--RustSeal-on-Steel_ep_87-1.html)</a> I do not need to sand and etch it as long as I do it within this timeframe correct?"</p> <p>Yes. That is correct.</p> <p>"What categories of topcoat paints (a brand recommendation would be nice), in your experience, adhere well. I'm looking for a UV protective option. Are the paints I should avoid?"</p> <p>You will want to use a good Automotive Grade or Marine Grade Top Coat.</p> <p>"Lastly, I anticipate 3 coats of RustSeal. Is a quart enough to do a plow or - do I need a gallon (I think around 40 sq ft front/back)? What are the coverages?"</p> <p>1 Quart might be enough, but you might want to get 2 quarts to be on the safe side. </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1986#post-2701 Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:07:37 +0000 plowguy 2701@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>I have a snow plow that I intend to sandblast, then RustBlast and RustSeal. I would like to topcoat it with a color that matches the red RustSeal very closely. A few questions:</p> <p>I want to confirm that if I spray on my topcoat within 6-12 hours (according do your diagram here: <a href="http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Flow-Chart--RustSeal-on-Steel_ep_87-1.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Flow-Chart--RustSeal-on-Steel_ep_87-1.html)</a> I do not need to sand and etch it as long as I do it within this timeframe correct?</p> <p>What categories of topcoat paints (a brand recommendation would be nice), in your experience, adhere well. I'm looking for a UV protective option. Are the paints I should avoid?</p> <p>Lastly, I anticipate 3 coats of RustSeal. Is a quart enough to do a plow or - do I need a gallon (I think around 40 sq ft front/back)? What are the coverages?</p> <p>Thanks. </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1980#post-2689 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:34:23 +0000 KBS Jim 2689@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>As always, pictures help but, it sounds like you're just applying the RustSeal a little too heavy. As with most all paints, they are best applied in multiple thin coats and not heavy coats as you'll have varying rates of curing. When applied thin, the film thickness cures through and through all at once. You can allow these areas to cure completely sand them smooth and reapply another coat. Also a few questions:</p> <p>What color are you using?<br /> What's the temperature and/or humidity where you are? </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1980#post-2688 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:21:29 +0000 slo 2688@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>first of all i have had great success with most products used from KBS</p> <p>the biggest issue i have been having is that i get alot of runs in some irregualr shaped parts im sure i can avoid that by brushing it on alot thinner and not as heavy</p> <p>the opther thing is that i see alot of air bubles of some sort on few areas of the material after dried. </p> <p>what causes this? needs to be stired more? thined out or reduced?</p> <p>its making my restoration look of poor quality when its really not, please give me some input on this so i can correct the problem. </p> <p>i can include pictures if needwed. </p> http://support.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1974#post-2678 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:23:57 +0000 KBS Coatings 2678@http://support.kbs-coatings.com/ <p>Spraying is always best, but the brush marks flow out nicely with the RustSeal in any finish. </p>